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« Thread Started on Dec 19, 2006, 3:41pm »

My machine was recently wrecked and I have decided to replace the plastic with BF 650 plastic. What color should I get?

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« Reply #1 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:00pm »

OH NO! :-X :o :(

I hope you or whoever wrecked is OK!!!

Dammage to frame?

I kinda like the black.
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« Reply #2 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:04pm »

JR, the person that wrecked the bike has a badly bruised foot, but other than that, I think only his pride is hurt.
So far, the damage to the frame from what I can see is limited to the front rack mount and it is minimal.
The machine is at the mechanic right now so he can give me a professional assessment.

The steering stem has a bend in it just above the top bearing, the racks, bumpers, and most of the plastic needs to be replaced.
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« Reply #3 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:05pm »

I see that you have not voted yet JR. Click on one of the radio buttons at the top and click "submit vote" to vote.
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« Reply #4 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:17pm »

With the two sets of wheels you have the black will look real sharp!!
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« Reply #5 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:20pm »

I would need to either paint my oem wheels or have them powder coated. Gold just doesn't belong on any atv.
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« Reply #6 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:21pm »

I will also be buying a piece of vinyl to re-cover my seat. Again with the gold ::)
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« Reply #7 on Dec 19, 2006, 4:24pm »

Here is Nate's ATV before:

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Here is Nate's ATV after:

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You can't even see any of the underlying damage and there is quite a bit of it.
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« Reply #8 on Dec 19, 2006, 6:17pm »

Nate,
Glad no one seriously hurt, I have to go with the green, that black is going to show every scuff, foot rub, and tree scrape.

My wife stays out of mud when she can, rides slow, stays out of the trees and at 530 miles looks like it should have 5000 miles.
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« Reply #9 on Dec 19, 2006, 7:03pm »

Thanks for posting the pics Kris.

JJJ, does your wife have a black ATV?
Do you have pictures?

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« Reply #10 on Dec 19, 2006, 10:33pm »

Yes the wife has a black one, it was already showing scuffs when it got rolled with the 53 miles on it. Put new back plastic on and 500 miles later it's not bad but definately noticeable.

I don't have any current pics and the machine is at the dealer getting a new jug, piston and rings.

Also waiting for her grizzly 700 to come in.
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« Reply #11 on Dec 20, 2006, 7:47am »

I see the rack is tweaked. Looks like mine when I rolled mine about 30mph. the handlebars were bent down to the air cleaner. I never did check my steering stem for straightness.
Plastic looks fine from this angle, but sure can't see it all in this photo. The racks do protect the plastic pretty well in roll over.
Man I wish I would have taken pics of mine when I rolled it.
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« Reply #12 on Dec 20, 2006, 8:00am »

Dude, the things still mint!!!! New handlebars, stem and pod plastic and you are good to go!! Like Yamihoo said, we can't see the whole thing so we have no idea as to how bad the body plastic is. If it is mainly the pod area plastic that is toast, replace that with black stuff and leave the rest red. That would be pretty neat!!
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« Reply #13 on Dec 20, 2006, 8:33am »

You can't see it there, but both front and rear fenders are ripped. Steereing stem is bent, both racks bent, upper and lower bumpers bent, floor boards bent due to fender protectors being bolted to them, most of the black plastic is torn. I will get the entire list/estimate from the shop today hopefully.
There is some frame damage from what I could see, but it can be repaired. It is the part that the racks mount to the strut towers.
Besides being torn, both fenders are deeply scratched.
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« Reply #14 on Dec 20, 2006, 8:40am »


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Looks like mine when I rolled mine about 30mph.


I wasn't there when it happened, but I suspect that he was doing at least 30 - 40. The rider was in shock and he has no idea what happened. It was on a straight road with some rutts and it would have been impossible to roll this machine if it were going any slower than 30.
Again, you can't see the damage from that photo, but the QB box is tweeked also. The black plastic on the rear rack is cracked.
The photo just doesn't do it justice.
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« Reply #15 on Dec 20, 2006, 8:56am »

Well that QB box sure must be tough! I'd expect that to be shattered. Probably protected your machine I'm sure.
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« Reply #16 on Dec 21, 2006, 9:45pm »

Well...
I dropped by the dealer today and took a look at the new black plastic. Just for grins, I rubbed my finger very softly on the shiny black plastic and it fogged right up.
I don't think I will get the black simply because it will not hold up like the others will.

I hate to say it, but I might just end up getting the red. :-/
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« Reply #17 on Dec 22, 2006, 6:25pm »

the green holds up pretty good with the scratches. i do like the black but wouldnt want it. hey someone will buy a new quad with your thumb print on it,lol.
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« Reply #18 on Dec 22, 2006, 6:38pm »

Here is a little preview:
There is one "gotcha" and that is that the BF steering stem is longer to make the handle bars sit up higher. Good thing I am getting a new stem anyway.
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« Reply #19 on Dec 22, 2006, 7:20pm »

Drool, drool, drool, I want...................... :'(
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« Reply #20 on Dec 23, 2006, 1:33pm »

Here is another issue that is easily overcome.
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I was thinking that I could either drill out the 2 holes, or make a plastic/metal plate to adapt the holes.

This is how the tail light is supposed to look on the BF plastic.
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Your other option is to buy that mounting piece to bolt on to your Prairie tail light.

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« Reply #21 on Dec 24, 2006, 6:54pm »

Are the cables going to be long enough Nate, if you put a taller steering stem on your bike?
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« Reply #22 on Dec 24, 2006, 8:41pm »

Good point Patrick.
I have seen others install risers and aftermarket bars on the Prairie with no problems. I guess I will just have to find out.
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« Reply #23 on Dec 24, 2006, 10:15pm »

Here is a tentative list of what I will need to get this done.

http://www.atvpt.com/650conversion.htm


If there is anything that I have missed, please feel free to let me know.
The reason that there is no rear carrier listed is that the Prairie rear carrier will work and looks fine.

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« Reply #24 on Dec 27, 2006, 10:43am »

That's some list brother! Thanks for taking the time to compile that. Here on ATVPT is the only place that I have seen that ;)

I bet you will be OK on the cables as long as you stay around a half inch of rise. Adding the Rox Risers with aftermarket bars bumped mine out that much, and all was well. Of course, mine is a 700 zuki, but I believe yours to be the identical.

Having said that, If you have never replaced the throttle cable, I would highly recommend doing so. My thumb enjoys the ride much more after I did that. well worth the money. Might be a good time to contemplate going to a twistie too!

I know you are ready to put it all back together and ride, but If you have the tools availible (drill press, taps-etc.), I would also take the time to add the grease fittings to the steering stem bearings. If you have made it 5 years without problems, you may not need it. I had problems with mine after less than a year of riding.

So...... have you decided on a color yet????
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« Reply #25 on Dec 27, 2006, 11:25am »

About the tail light, can you make a small adapter plate from a flat piece of plastic or aluminum?
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« Reply #26 on Dec 27, 2006, 11:29am »

After looking at the pics again I see your comments for the first time. :-/

I didn't know they made an adapter plate already. If it's only a couple of bucks...
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« Reply #27 on Dec 27, 2006, 11:47am »

The adapter is just the bracket off of a BF 650. From Bike Bandit the bracket is $3.20
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« Reply #28 on Dec 27, 2006, 11:49am »

Oh yeah... I ordered the red plastic.
I just wasn't happy with how the black holds up for everyone else.
I decided that Team Green just doesn't fit my style.
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I bet you will be OK on the cables as long as you stay around a half inch of rise. Adding the Rox Risers with aftermarket bars bumped mine out that much, and all was well. Of course, mine is a 700 zuki, but I believe yours to be the identical.

Having said that, If you have never replaced the throttle cable, I would highly recommend doing so. My thumb enjoys the ride much more after I did that. well worth the money. Might be a good time to contemplate going to a twistie too!


I found these pics:
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They are from a P700, but I think that I will be okay with the cables. My throttle cable is not stiff at all. I don't have near the mud that y'all do in the east.
A twist throttle is out of the question for me. One reason is hand warmers and the other reason is that I can't stand twist.

I will be doing the grease mod on my old man's P as the steering stem has some play in it.
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